Brake Saab 3 cylinder, Two Stroke – Wheel Cylinders ID and Year Applications

///Brake Saab 3 cylinder, Two Stroke – Wheel Cylinders ID and Year Applications

Brake Saab 3 cylinder, Two Stroke – Wheel Cylinders ID and Year Applications

Saab Wheel Cylinders

If you are like me you have some old wheel cylinders around you have no idea what the heck they fit.  I always think I need to save them “just in case” they fit one of my cars.

I know Saab made three types of brake systems for their early cars.  I have my own names for them…they are:

  • Type I  called Shitty, Shitty, Shitty
  • Type II called Shitty, Shitty
  • Type III called just Shitty.

Since it so easy to confuse the Type I from the Type II I did some matching to see if I could make it easier for me to keep them straight in my shop!

It all started when I tried to make sense of the wheel cylinders on my 1957 93.  What the heck is going on here!  The parts on this 1957 Saab make no sense.  The parts books says the right side wheel cylinders should be a #70-62-904 (with a bore size of .9375”), but there is a #71-68-941 (bore size .800”) that was used on 1961 and up cars bolted here right now!  Well that’s what happens with these old Saabs, someone didn’t have the correct part so they substituted an similar part.  This can drive you nuts figuring out the correct parts.  The problem with this mismatched set-up is that the bore size of the two wheel cylinders are different.  Since one bore is .9375” and the other bore is .800” you could have pull issues on this right side.  This particular 1957 93 use to be owed by Larry Williams, and Larry was famous for making “things work” with the wrong parts!  He was a true tinker that could cobble anything together and THEN be able drive it across the country!  I can drive mine across the country too, but only AFTER I know they are in 100% shape to do so…there is only so much “Larry Luck” you can count on.

Some times your front drum size can help you ID the cylinders you can expect to find on your car.  Saab used the 8” front drums from 1950 thru 1958 (up to serial number 49,800 on 93s).  They then switched to 9” Drum front drums starting with serial 49,801 and up.

Besides the bore size difference on the old Saabs, the threads for the brake lines Saab use can be different too, so that only adds to the confusion.  Below is what I have found them to be, but remember these are old cars and many have been altered through their life cycles.

To make the thread types easy to ID,

If you have a steel wheel cylinder you need to use plain old US 3/8” x 24 NF threads.

If you get an Aluminum wheel cylinder than you need the British threads (British 3/8” x 18 BSF threads (BSF is British Standard Fine which has a pitch of .055” so they will not interchange with the US 3/8”x18) BSF can also be refered to as “BSW” for British Standard Wintworth)

This holds true for both front and rear wheel cylinders

They also make a brass Y splitter or coupler, and both front and rear bleeders can be brass too, and they all use British threads also.

I have added Saab part numbers where I have them available but really this article was written to ID wheel cylinders off of a visual look rather than part number IDs.

 


 

Model 92, Front, with 8” Drums

1950 (looks like the same wheel cylinder as 1959 93B cylinder)

Aluminum with two studs with British threads inlet

Bore 7/8” or .875”

Need 2 per side but left and right are the same cylinder.

Saab # 70-29-739 right & left (92)

 

 


 

Model 93, Front with 8” Drums

1956 to 1958

Cast Iron with TWO angled inlets that have US threads

Bore is 15/16” or .9375”

Need 2 per side and left side has an L and right has an R

Saab # 70-62-896 Left
70-62-904 Right

 


 


 

Model 93B and 93F and 93GT, Front, with 9” Drums

1959 to mid 1961, Aluminum with two studs with British threads inlet

Note: Bruce Turk’s 1958 uses these wheel cylinders, which begs the question, is the parts book wrong (does happen) or did someone swap Bruce’s out to the later style that also had 9” drums too to improve braking power (most likely) in an earlier Life cycle!

Bore 7/8” or .875”

Need 2 per side but left and right are the same cylinder.

Saab # 70-29-739 right & left

 

 


 

Model 93F and 93 GT and 96/95, Front, 9” Drums)

Mid 1961 to 1963

Cast Iron with ONE angled inlet and ONE flat inlet, both with US threads

Bore 51/64” or .800” and has a wide gap piston for shoe anchor

Need 2 per side and left side has an L and right has an R

Saab # 71-68-933 Left
71-68-941 Right

 

 

 


 

Model 96 and 95, Front, 9” Drums

1964 to 1968

Cast Iron with one angled inlet and one flat inlet, both with US threads

Bore 51/64” or .800” and has a NARROW gap piston for shoe anchor

Need 2 per side and left side has an L and right has an R

Left  # 71-98-591 Left   (or 73-72-782, Lockheed # 110403, or 4241-550, or 36-53 0095)
Right #71-98-609 (or  73-72-790, or 71-98-60, or Lockheed # 110402)

Note: Photo shows “L” for left

 

 


 

Rear Wheel Cylinders

Model 92, 93, 93B, 93F

1950 to 1958 use Bore is 3/4” or .750”

1959 to mid 1961 use Bore is 7/8” or .875”

Aluminum with one inlet that is British threads

Need one per side and both sides are the same cylinder

Saab # 70-89-354   ¾” Bore (Lockheed #106912)
70-63-134   7/8” Bore

 

 


 

Model 93F and 96, Rear

Mid 1961 and up

Cast Iron with dual pistons

Bores can be 5/8” (.625”) or ¾” (.750”)

Saab # 71-80-730 (other numbers used too)

 

 

 

 


 

Brass Y Splitter with British threads
Used many locations from the front to the rear as a splitter.  Mostly on pre 1964 cars.

 

Brass, front wheel bleeder with British threads
Used mainly on the front for Pre 1964 cars.

 

 

 

Brass, rear wheel bleeder with British threads.
Several types of these used manly on the rear axle, Pre 1964 cars.

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  1. Tim Winker August 30, 2012 at 9:33 am - Reply

    Thanks for the breakdown on wheel cylinders, Tom. Long ago I bought a bunch of 93 parts from someone, including the front axle/brake assys. Took one apart last night and came up with aluminum cylinders that look much like #70-29-739. There is a casting number that looks like “23230-3”, though one or more of those 3s could be a 5.

    You mentioned that parts are available from Moss Motors, and I presume Victoria British. My memory says these are the same as MGA, but my memory isn’t what it once was.

    Surprising to me was that even after years of sitting in my unheated garage where moisture clings to all surfaces, everything came apart pretty easily. It took awhile to remove the drums from the assy with a proper wheel puller, but they eventually popped loose. Brake shoes even look serviceable!

    Found some wheel cylinder kits in the old SAAB parts boxes with the Lockheed #SSB-770. Do you know what those might fit?

    Thanks!

    Tim

  2. John Eastman October 9, 2018 at 5:20 am - Reply

    Hi Tom,
    Nice explanation on this! I’m loving my ’64 96, now my daily driver. Thanks for your help.
    What do you recommend for a square socket size for the rear brake adjusters? None of my wrenches seem to fit and I don’t want to spoil the head on the adjuster screw. Thanks!

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